How it all started

Two of my coworkers got into it about politics, the end result was this e-mail thread. I’d like to get some outside readers feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgrxpp97OQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXr_Ga_n0pY



Cute,

If you believe this you better dig a hole like a scared little rabbit and hide!

Get real

Rob


Yeah, well I will believe the audit, evaluation and investigative arm of the United States Congress whose sole reason is to perform and report financial and performance audits of taxpayer money. I would love to match your figures of the federal defecit and compound interest up with David Walkers (head comptroller of the US). Maybe your financial outlook on social security, medicare and medicaid along with the retiring number of baby boomers will be far more optimistic.


Hi Mr. Bunny Rabbit,

Of course it is because your worrying about what happened versus how to fix it. I can tell you never have had any money or owned a business. You need to do more than watch a 5 minute video on youtube.com. Its also obvious to me that you never read any of those reports. I wonder why your not reading something that matters like Forbes or the Central Bank webpage, cme.com, or even the Wall street journal? Keep in mind you won't win this argument with me because you preach DOOM!

Like I said before go hide in bunker. I'm gonna go live!

Your antics are hilarious because even in a market like this you should be thinking how cheap everything is right now and buying it up to increase your wealth. Thats the difference between thinking rich and thinking poor. Your worried about increased cost instead of thinking how you can profit off it. Since we are not on a gold standard the money is all fake anyway bescause its guanteed by US Goverment. The debt your crying about is going to grow weather you beat a drum or not. So you can cry or profit off it. Oh, yeah I thought you knew alot about money. Even the price of oil can be profited off whether its up or down. In the last 45 days oil has dropped from $121 a barrel to about $66 a barrel. Can can almost bet you the guys selling oil futures that made billions of dollars in the last 45 days could care less about the GAO video on youtube.com. You may want to check and see what PIP of oil pays you whether you buy or sell?

Come to think about it lets talk about trade deficit we have with China. At the last WTO meeting President George W. Bush had a great opportunity to talk to the Leaders of China to make sure they traded fair and by ways of how there currency and is valued, and the amountof US goods they import. So nothing was done. we have a 2.5 Billion dollar a day trade deficit with China, Wen import 28% of thier goods and export barely 7%. Because of NAFTA with the lack of negotiating for American workers all of our skilled labor jobs have been sucked out of the country to China, India, and Mexico. Big American corporations have done nothing but export our labor.( Ross Perot was dead on on this) That means young guys like you have been limited in ways of earning money. (Unless you have more impressive skills we are unaware of) Also in the last 15 years since NAFTA all of our skilled tradesman are retired or dead, or dieing. Those that retired in states like Michigan, Ohio, Minnesota, Iowa, etc have bled thier 401 k plans and refinanced thier houses into foreclosure because they couldn't find a skilled job. The because Mills, auto plants have closed in thier towns it depreciated the property values and now they could give away thier houses let alone sell them. They could only find a minimum wage job at Walmart or Home Depot, Keep in mind Many of them weren't just trademan they were Engineers and smart people with MBA's. I know this because I tried to save many of them while I was a Banker for five years but couldn't do anything because there was to much risk. Hence why I find you childish interpretation of a 5 minute video humerous. So the infrastruture of the USA is seriously broken. If someone doesn't come up to bat to fix it you will be speaking Chinese.(Of course the free speach you hold dear may be gone then?) You may consider getting more education like I am in Business or Law then your arrgument may stand a chance.

By the way this conversation is over with. You need to deal with the current circumstances instead of crying about it. Perhaps you should ask a more indepth question from the tid-bit of info you have from yourself like. "What am I going to do to make a difference"?

From your behavior your waiting for someone to come and save you? Really *****, what are you going to do?
Maybe with this new wealth of knowledge you should run for public office and prove your point. Keep in mind you not only have to prove it but come up with a solution, or you'll look silly in a few years telling everyone you broke the bank. Winning a trivial argument to prove how slick you are is childs play. Proving it is a Big Boys game. So I put this to you. If you think it's a problem get up off your lurels and do something about it instead of trying to win a argument with me because honestly I think its a silly and childish.

Come on *****, Impress me!

Otherwise, your just a scared little bunny hiding in a hole.....

THIS WILL BE ARE LAST CONVERSATION BECAUSE I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO!

PEACE

Rob


Wow...I don't even know where to begin with this.

First off, you email is LOADED with presuppositions of who I am, what I have accomplished, and my attitude of the current political and economic climate. You clearly want to paint me into an image of an uneducated citizen which is hugging at the pants of a politician to SAVE ME!. It is one thing to have an opinion about politics and another to come off holier than thou with a condescending attitude as displayed in this email. I am curious how you come to your conclusions that I have never studied law, economics, business and do not read the Wall Street Journal (I prefer the Economist). In fact, I bet you can't even name my majors let alone the degree I possess.

Second, you aren't going to get any argument from me about NAFTA, the WTO, and other such organizations as they take away from America's sovereignty.

I am also curious how you feel that I am simply sitting at home crying about the situation waiting in some ark until the country blows up. Again, it completely goes back to you not knowing jack about me or what I do in my offtime both politically and altruistically. I am very disturbed by your last paragraph and how you treat people who challenge your way of thinking. If you must make someone who wants to have an intelligent discussion into an enemy than that is your prerogative, but probably not the smartest when it comes to a working environment. I thought you were someone I could actually have a discussion with in the office about politics, economics and the like.

It is clear to me that you feel threatened about an honest discourse of the economic future of the United States of America. Your whole response to the Government Accountability Office reports were personal attacks on my character, education, and temperament. You did not say one thing or provide one point about how America will work its way out of federal debt that Medicare Medicaid/Social Security are putting us in. Has anyone stopped and wondered how we got into the mess we are in currently? In fact, you even challenged that I have no ideas on how to accomplish this! How can you come to such ridiculous conclusions? Clearly a man as educated as you would be smarter than to bear false witness on people!

I am personally very disappointed in how a fellow co-worker nonetheless (one of which I pal around with and was glad to have in the office) would come at me with such pointed and arrogant attacks through something as trivial as this. Whenever I have a discussion (through text or face to face) with people and they resort to these tactics than it is clear that no intelligent discourse is going to take place.

So you Win Rob! You are right on the money. I know nothing of economics, trade organizations, how to run a business and the like. I should just shut my mouth and be complacent. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

As far as the work environment goes, I will be avoiding any further interactions with you for the sake of the office.


Mr. Bunny Rabbit


I'm sorry you didn't read my last email where I said we would not discuss this again?

I'm sorry you don't have work to do?

Another words, drop it! You didn't gather that in my last email?

SO AGIAN I WILL SAY THIS, WE WILL NOT DISCUSS THIS AGAIN!